In the interests of balance.. a Mac post.

Mac OS X hacked in less than 30 minutes

The only thing which has kept Mac OS X relatively safe up until now is the fact that the market share is significantly lower than that of Microsoft Windows or the more common Unix platforms…If this situation was to change, in my opinion, things could be a lot worse on Mac OS X than they currently are on other operating systems

posted from a machine running XP .. careful out there Mac people 🙂

16 thoughts on “In the interests of balance.. a Mac post.

  1. I have to admit to knowing little about methods of hacking and the like, the surely this makes it easier:

    […] I set up an LDAP server and linked it to the Macs naming and authentication services, to let people add their own account to this machine.

    [From the mac-in-question’s webpage].

    Seems to me a bit like saying ‘if you have a friend inside my locked house, how long will it take you to get the front door open’.

    Still, it is a shame to find out that OS X is not the panacea to all computing happiness ;).

  2. Mark – stop, stop stop!!

    There have been a raft of stories about hacking OS X and (at present) they are all proving just headline grabbers and are unfounded.

    The guy set-up a web server on a mac box. didn’t say if it was behind a firewall or router or was properly patched (apache, php and mysql patches). Then he allowed people to create their own accounts on it!!

    That’s like saying apache is not secure because wordpress has a security flaw…

    These kinds of stories are just becoming a malicious joke.

    All the ‘winner’ did was deface the website. I just wish people would read the damn article before this hype starts. Somebody complained the other day that Apple had just fixed a couple of dozen security flaws so it surely couldn’t be very secure. They failed to read (or mention) that the majority of these patches were for open source software that comes bundled in OS X (such as apache and the like) and that you could have got patches for this earlier from the people who made the components … but Apple routinely roll these out with their own updates eventually.

    I’m tired of mainstream media talking to ‘security experts’ (who are invariably anti-virus vendors) and just passing dodgy facts and spreading rumour. The best analogy I came up with is that it’s dangerous to fly in airplanes because if you open the door at 20000ft you’ll be sucked out and die or the plane will crash.

  3. You obviously know nothing Shep … you asked.

    It’s not about Mac elitists. It’s about accurate and intelligent reporting and trying to educate about real security issues. “The sky is falling in” attitudes pushed by security conmpanies who want to sell more software, or reporters after the next headline grabbing story, and “I hate …” attitudes don’t help.

    But somehow I don’t think you care about that.

  4. oh please, mac enthusiasts have their heads so far up their asses that apple could release shit in a box, call it iPoop and you all would hail it as the best new technology of the year. Apple is all about design over function, which is fine if that’s what you are looking for, but don’t try and say that everything apple comes out with is great just because the white case matches your pastey skin and the black case matches your uber-cool turtleneck. Better style does not equal better product, just a better looking product.

  5. like i said before, the user still gained root access in less than 30 minutes. that is not secure, and the recent virus and security revelations show that it’s mostly because mac’s hold a smaller market share that they are considered “safer.” numerous vulnerabilities exist, enough vulnerabilities to get mac elitists’ panties in a bunch.

  6. If you want to try to add something Shep don’t just read Digg comments or Zdnet articles and then repeat them. Seriously. Do you think I don’t know what I’m talking about? Assume I do, what do you think my opinion of what you’ve just said is? Put down your pom-poms and discuss it seriously if you want to. Market share has nothing to do with it because it’s a *nix based system!

    Give me strength…

  7. i could care less what your opinion of me is. did i read the zdnet article? of course. forgive me for reading the article that was linked to in the post. did i read digg comments? nope. i go to that site maybe once a month. oh, forgive me for paying attention to news articles over the past few weeks. i will try to forget the numerous vulnerability articles that have come out and join you and your friends by giving jobs a reach-around. market share most definitely does have something to do with it. who is going to go out of their way to exploit a system that 1%, or 5%, or 10% of people use. not as many as those willing to go after the majority. and what exactly am i using my pom-poms for? it definitely isn’t windows.

  8. “i could care less what your opinion of me is”

    I guessed that Shep. You have a chip on your shoulder mate. You can’t hold an intelligent discussion, and in r/l you’d probably just shout and say things like “Cos I said so”. The only one waving any flag in this thread is you. Nobody said Macs were cool or Windows were better. Go on, read back up there and you’ll see there was only one zealot. Only one person was being ‘anti’ about anything.

    That was you fella.

    You’d prefer to read headlines and not look into the facts behind it. Facts don’t matter in your world. There is no other opinion. There is no other side to the story. You read it so it must be true.

    I got the message that you don’t like Macs or Steve Jobs. But I didn’t get anything else. I tried to discuss it with you but nothing registers.

    Market share? It’s based on Unix. Same as linux and most of the worlds webservers. What’s the share there then?

    But I don’t care. I don’t want to read your innuendos or insults to anyone who owns an Apple product. I was as insulting to you Shep, but that’s because I think you’re a bit stupid. I didn’t generalise.

    But it’s just not worth anymore of my time.

  9. yeah, maybe i have been a bit anti, but only because it seems to irk you because it seems you are one of the mac-elitists that i originally took a jab at. oh well. you didn’t generalize, you think i’m stupid. oh no, i hope i can sleep tonight. i didn’t generalize either. obviously, for you to get this upset, you are a mac-elitist, and not just a user.

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