Returning to XP

Windows XP is now back where it was. The Ubuntu Live and Install CD’s will be passed to people I know will try them out, and the Wireless card is winging it’s way back to Ohio. I did anticipate a learning curve and I was prepared for setbacks. I know it’s only been a couple of days and that someone would say that had I stuck at it things might have improved, but in the same way you can taste something and know you’ll never like it, such is how I feel about Ubuntu Linux.

If you have read the few posts I made, you might have guessed this. Subtle I was not. I apologise if what I said offended you but I do not apologise for saying what I thought in the manner I did. It’s how I write.
I know that there could be responses about the flavour of Linux, how I’m still in the evil grip of the Microsoft empire, how I should have taken longer, how I should do x y and z but I’m happy where I am now – with a machine that I am not fighting and bouncing my head off the walls trying to understand. Below are some observations of mine, some based on what I’d heard as a Windows user. They are not gospel, they are not an absolute truth – they are just what I think and will serve as a reminder to myself should I again decide to choose to play with Linux.

Why did I do this ?
For something to do. To discover some more about the much-vaunted Linux. Because I’d not had a way to use Linux on my wireless machine before. Probably other small reasons too.

Linux is more secure
A tool is only as good as the person wielding it. So where security is concerned, no matter what your OS if you choose a stupidly simple password then your security has gone. I also subscribe to the belief that I don’t have to make my site and communications rocket-proof – I just have to make them more secure than others. And I also believe that while encrypting some communication might be useful, the Govt and other ‘powers that be’ are perfectly able to detail my life should they choose. So in the matter of security, it’s down to me. If you want to try and access anything on this or any other of my sites, go ahead. While I’m sure I am crackable the fact that my passwords are very long random strings protects me more than your average site. And I’m also fully backed up so any attacks really would be a minor inconvenience. And I found ‘su’ irritating. Yes I can see why it’s there on a shared system – but a home network ? The 4 of us all have admin status and ‘su’ just became a PITA.

Is your partner dog-ugly but cooks really well, does the chores great and is fantastic between the sheets ? Or have you compromised on the deeds by going for something easier on the eye ? Did you figure that although the experience may be the same some factors make things more pleasurable ? Get my drift ?

Information concealing
A criticism I often see thrown at Windows concerns the registry and the concealing of information elsewhere. I installed gFTP. I bookmarked two of my domains. It then crashed a couple of times (things crash in Linux ? Yes, they do) so I used the Package Manager and opted for complete removal. The next day I tried again after being reassured that gFTP was one of the good GUI programs – and it retrieved that bookmarked information. The fact it did so is of little concern – but the behaviour I saw was one that Windows gets criticised for. There may be no registry, but gFTP information was still in my system even after I had told the system to completely remove it. The same was true of other apps. And in the same way that where things are stored is out there to be found, so is the Microsoft stuff. It’s all as bad as each other.

It amused me when, on starting the machine, it said “Click here for Updates” (isn’t that a Window’s exclusive ? you’d think so from what I’ve read over time). So I clicked and let it do what it wanted. This was pretty much the same as I do in XP, though I do read and check that no DRM nonsense is trying to get in and suchlike. But I understand neither. The fact that Linux is OSS and I can choose to view the change log, see what’s what and decide which bytes can be changed just is not going to happen – in the same way it won’t matter if I could choose with Windows code. It’s like telling me that WordPress is OSS and that if I don’t like version 2.0 I can fork it. I don’t know enough – and my guess is that the vast majority of users of both systems do not either. We just want it to work. Painlessly.

Was easy enough – and once I’d been told to upgrade the ‘kernel’ the machine worked better. That’s a criticism.

Machine speed
The only thing I know was faster was The GIMP. Less than 4 seconds from click to working. Neat. Nothing else was notably faster. There may be all manner of tweaks that can be made to get things moving faster – but that applies to Windows as well. You think I just installed XP again and sat back ? hell no – it takes a while to remove services, remove the clutter, get start-up and shut-down working quicker and generally get the system working as I want – and that’s similar to Linux. Any system is as fast as you want it to be. My XP is quick.

But it’s Open Source ! It’s Free !
So ? My OS is an invisible cost, and given the march of the OSS movement it’ll be an ever smaller cost of a new machine. The fact that it is Free and I can do what I want makes not a jot of difference if I do not possess the knowledge to manipulate the data. It’s like me saying that there are trees and clay and water so build a house because then it’ll be free. No it won’t – and would the effort be worth the reward ? It’s like saying WordPress is free, or phpMyAdmin is free. In the OSS sense, they are, but unless you can afford the cost of a computer, and internet connection and some webspace then it’s not free is it ? I am beholden to whoever codes the OS – and whether that is a group of people in Redmond VA or a group of people spread over the world it matters not. Yes there are philosophical issues and OSS could be described as an ideology but when it actually comes down to it there is but one issue for many people, myself included – it costs nothing. (This is changing the subject…) If you were to start charging for a currently free to download OSS product, it’s usage would drop wouldn’t it ? Because there are free competitors – and people do not want to pay if possible. There is also the issue of mechanisms of actually paying. Whatever – this is a separate issue. The point I’m trying to make is that the ‘Free / OSS’ bit is wasted on me. It just does not matter because no matter how you look at it, I don’t code.

Grub Error 17 – that was nice. Uninstall Ubuntu and it takes the Master Boot record with it. Google ‘Error 17’ and nearly every occurrence is Linux related. If you haven’t seen this little wonder, here’s what happens: press power switch on machine, 3 words appear; ‘Grub Error 17’. The machine goes no further than that. Error 17 = reformat for most of us, me included. Nice. It was when this happened that I remembered something – Ubuntu did this to me before. I had installed it fully hoping that the full version + a wired connection would help me get drivers for the FD7010 card I have. It didn’t, so I restored the machine – and got the same grub error. That’s twice I have uninstalled Ubuntu and twice my HD has been rendered unbootable. There will not be a third time. So if you are pondering this, go get a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD so that the MBR can be repaired. Don’t wait for the uninstall – just get it now 🙂

I must thank Skippy for the card and the ongoing support. I feel guilty that in some way I have let you down Skippy because of you both lending me the card and encouraging me. And I must thank tinster and godzirra again from #wordpress, Justin for his support and others who have made positive noises in my direction. I did try !

What I use my computer for
I don’t use it to make money. It does not ’employ’ me in the traditional manner. I use it to escape. This machine is a means for me to lose myself in other things, other places. It’s primary purpose is to make my life better. Easier. It does this by not frustrating me. That makes my life infinitely more intolerable – I have to have a direction to look in that does not stress me. XP does not stress me. Windows never frustrated me as much as these last few days. I do want something to learn, but not at such a high cost. I do not mind a challenge – I crave distractions – I do mind reading the hype and experiencing something very different. Example: gFTP crashed on me several times. It’s meant to be the best of the somewhat limited bunch of GUI ftp programs. A google for ‘gftp crash’ produces more than a few results. A search for ‘Filezilla crash’ produces less than one-third of that number. Make learning this code part of a job that you will give me and I will learn it.

Lessons to be learned…..
Do not believe the hype.
Passwords and where they apply needs to be better documented.
Keypairs is something I will look into.
Arrange to be offline – tell people you are going away. On a cruise. Around both Poles.

Will I try Linux again ?
Never say never. I suppose I am better prepared now to do so. I know that I must do better homework in many ways if I do. Do I regret it ? No. I have learned from this, and learning is always a good thing.

Should you listen to me ?
Good grief no. This is neither a pulpit nor a lecture theatre.
It’s my website and I’ll say it as I felt it. I might not be right but just like you, I’m not wrong either 🙂

31 thoughts on “Returning to XP

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  2. I have to admit, as an IT professional, I too had trouble getting Ubuntu running smoothly on my home-built desktop. However, the three laptops I installed it on were no problem. It even recognised the quirky WiFi of my Toshiba Tecra M1. Some stuff it didn’t do could be a brain-ache to non-IT people, like not ‘mounting’ the FAT32 disk partitions (where all the Windows files are) and setting the default boot sequence (as I dual-booted) to Ubuntu rather than Windows. I need this as I haven’t quite weaned my family away from the evil empire, yet.

    Some of what you say is a bit harsh – like the experience not matching the hype. Given how the whole PC environment is heavily biased towards Windows, and Microsoft have had twenty years to get this right, I think Ubuntu 5.10 meets with all reasonable expectations.

    Think of Linux as a professional’s camera and Windows as a point-and-shoot. You would be right to go for the point-and-shoot option if you only wanted to take holiday snaps, but then a professional would get mighty frustrated if that was the only tool in the box. Likewise, once you go beyond the simple, Linux stretches way beyond anything Windows can do.

  3. Bless you! As a supreme newbie, I’ve made almost every possible computer mistake and will probably make the rest before long. My experience with Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular parallels yours to a remarkable degree. It’s amazing how compelling the hype about Linux can be. In spite of two previous unsatisfactory experiments (Red Hat & Susi) I was persuaded by one more computer guru that Ubuntu is the best thing since … whatever. Got my free installation CDs and (for unfathomable reasons)intalled them in both my desktop and laptop. What followed was no different from my prior forays. Ubuntu seemed no more accessible than the other versions and the Help files, although voluminous, were written in the same impenetrable style as the others. So I uninstalled the OS from my desktop and eventually wound up with a complete hard drive meltdown (before finding out about the missing MBR and realizing to my dismay that I had a copy of UCBD sitting on my bookshelf the entire time!)
    I thought that perhaps, in spite of the desktop disaster, running Toshiba’s reinstall CD on my laptop would rid me of Ubuntu and restore a clean, functional, even “virginal” installation of Win XP. Then I encountered “GRUB error 17” and realized that there’s no simple way to retrieve ones soul from the devil. I can’t tell you how grateful I am for your engaging essay and the reminder about the UCBD. I haven’t yet tried to replace my MBR, but at least I have a fighting chance now. – ajhil

  4. Returning to Linux from XP: I use Zenwalk Linux as my desktop distro. It installs in 15 mins and gets all my hardware, yes, all – correct! All the software I need is part of the distro so nothing to download. With XP it was printer drivers, graphics drivers, office software, ftp software etc etc the list went on and on just to get some work done. Funny, its like the same article but the other way round. I had to laugh. If everyone started out with Apples they would all complain about Oranges (and Vice Versa!)

  5. Dudes half of experiance of the LInux OS is modifying it and tinkering with all the settings so that you get what you want and not what you dont want. linux is just as good as windows with the exception of maleware and viruses ans such you are still at risk. i have fedora core 6 and the only trouble i have is getting My Broadcom wireless to work, and thats not even Linux’s fault. Broadcom wont release open source drivers for there products making there Wireless devices the new definition of Gimp!

  6. The latest version of ubuntu feisty fawn is a breeze to install.Graphics drivers install automatically and codecs install on demand.Just when you thought it was over they have come up with great easy to use os.I think if you give it another go
    you will switch to ubuntu for good.It is only now that anyone can install and use
    ubuntu with no knowledge of linux.

  7. I know this is an old blog, but I stumbled upon it today on Google search. I just went back to XP after a week on Ubuntu as well. I might’ve become an expert Linux coder and user after years of Linux usage and many headaches, but I’ve already gone through those to learn Windows to the extent that I do. Why was I going to go through that again. If anything, I want an OS that will make things easier than on Windows, not harder.

  8. Its nice to have someone actually writing that ubuntu doesn’t work for ya. Everywhere are blogs and posts and articles about how wicked ubuntu is. Yeah true, to be honest, I like it and being back on the windows desktop is annoying and so much pain in the ass simply as it was, running ubuntu for the first weak. Learning something about it, doing some tweaking etc. and I actually started working. Just listing to music, watching TV and DVDs, surfing the web and writing emails. Gimp rocks, I like it. Audacity does all what I need. I stopped thinking about the quality of the software I am working with. Why? Because they are working. Weird uh? Yes but you get used to it. I was. You will.

    I’ve stumbled over some points you said. Loading times for instance. After one year running linux, you wont usually notice any slowdowns still. It might seem slow in the beginning, but thats because it does its work properly and will do that even after month not restarting the system. Try that on windows.

    Or the automatically updates. If linux downloads and applies updates, did you know that you will have the latest open office, the safest version of firefox plus ANY software you are running on your computer will be up to date? That is not even close to what windows does.

    What am I going to say. Um. If you are happy with windows, all right then. As I said, I liked the article. Thats the way you see it. But my advice to you folks, give ubuntu a try and check it out. Being back on the windows desktop is just a no go area.

  9. Yeah, I’ve stumbled upon these things and found Kubuntu to be a better choice. It’s just got a very different interface. The thing I wish people would make clearer is that “Completely removing” the program isn’t going to remove your personal history and settings. Those are stored in “hidden files” in your home folder, files and directories beginning with a dot. If you set your file manager to show hidden files, you can delete them.

  10. Since I wrote that post above I stayed with XP.
    Then Vista came along …… and I’m writing this on a Mac.

    What you need to realise is that us Windows users were told that other systems were better, more secure, needed less updates – and that’s just plainly not true. My Mac has had more security updates than my PC has. maybe they are getting less secure….

    A machine is only as good as the user.

    And it drives me nuts that Mac users still scoff at Windows for files being left behind – it happens here on the Mac. It’s not just the keychain it’s other prefs files. And yes I know how to remove them but I know what to do in XP too. That fact doesn’t matter – what does is that Mac / Linux users say one thing when another is true.

  11. I’ve been screwing with ubuntu for probably a month now. Lets see, so far somethings are really easy, like installing programs in the package manager, however removing them and knowing what all to remove is not so easy. If you can’t find something in the package manager though, you better hope its in a package format, which it usually isn’t. Then your in for it because you have to compile it yourself at the command line. Basically when things work, its great they just-work, if not, your screwed. Half the time programs don’t come with everything they need just the source code, so you have to guess at what else it needs. I don’t really even know how uber geeks and programmers do it. Seems like pretty much anything doesn’t just-work in linux you have to beat your head on the table trying to figure out how to make it work, which usually involves the command line. I started with edgy eft right before feisty fawn came out, everything worked but using wireless was almost impossible, then I went to feisty fawn and wireless worked good but my sound broke! Linux is alot of headaches and its missing alot of basic things like a way to set up ad-hoc networking, and dual monitors, which I found in fedora but not in ubuntu. Linux is definitely not for your non technical user, and it really helps if your some sort of programmer, which I am not. It’s great for servers but not near ready for the desktop.

  12. I found this blog when I search Google, trying to find answer about my screwed up hard disk partition order after uninstalling Ubuntu 7.04 and going back to Windows XP SP2. Now, my D: drive became a C: drive and my C: drive became a D: drive. Don`t know why this happen, I thought it`s because I formatted the C: drive before as Ext3 prior to Ubuntu 7.04.

    Until now, I`ve been trying several Linux distro, such as:
    – Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
    – Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
    – Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
    – Mandriva Linux 2007.1 Free
    – Xandros 3
    – Dreamlinux 2.2 Multimedia Edition
    – Linux XP Desktop 2006
    – Fedora Core 6

    And nothing gonna made me want to stay in that OS, after trying every OS I listed above, I always wanted to go back to XP, because what? Because Microsoft has always made it as easy as possible for end-user and Linux just make things harder for me to do the same kind of jobs.

    I don`t try to said that modern Linux distro is suck, hell no… It`s far more better since the Red Hat 6 era. But, Linux developer seems to forget something very essential, something very basic like how to configure the PPPoe connection. If you ever tried Ubuntu, it`s even don`t have any graphical menu to tell users where to configure the PPPoe connection. I found the way after searching the help section. It said that I must configure it manually via Terminal with command prompt!! OMG I can`t believe it, did I going back to Windows 3.1??? Come on, we live in Windows Vista era, why make a basic things such as configure PPPoe to be harder like that? That`s some homework for Linux developer.

    And one more things to say, I live in Indonesia, as you know, this is the development country. The unlimited ADSL connection is very expensive here. It cost about IDR 750.000/months. Mine just use the 1GB/months limited package which cost me IDR 200.000/months. And using Linux is very hard for most Indonesians, because it needs to connect to internet every time I need something. Even for basic function such as playing DVD, MP3, or DivX, I must downloaded some packages from internet, and that`s not small package. And every time I re-installd the OS, I must do the same things again. My whole internet quota will be just for download Linux packages… 🙁

    That`s some of my experience with Linux and my conclusion is, Linux just not ready for desktop, except you`re a geek, everyday sitting in front of your computer just to solve some small minor problems.

  13. I agree with you that Linux isn’t ready yet. How can it be with all the different hardware configurations out there and nooone to test them all? Ubuntu booted fine the first install.. and then NEVER AGAIN! So now i face the uninstall of the Grub bootloader.. joy of joys.. i might try it again in a year or two.

  14. I have to ask with all sincerity, “Why do all of you try it Windows is so great?” The logic is not registering. Again, if Windows is as easy as everyone mentions, “What would compel you to try something that is harder?” It truly seems that none of you are happy with Windows and you were looking for an out. What you found was something that wouoldn’t let you be lazy. Just remember lazy isn’t always convenient…

  15. I’ve had Kubuntu 6.10 installed on an old Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop alongside Win XP for a while now and I really believe that I would use Kubuntu a lot more if I could only get my Netgear wireless PCMCIA card to work (no joy since October 2006). The Kubuntu community have bent over backwards to be helpful, but an OS is there to make the computer work and thus to aid me in whatever it is I want to do with my computer. In the case of my laptop, 85% of the time that’s surfing the web (and other internet stuff) and Kubuntu simply doesn’t let me do this. Interesting, when dual-booting into XP, everything works fine. I don’t want to tempt fate by trying to remove Kubuntu, but XP will probably be used until the laptop finally gives way in a few years.

  16. Great post. I see a recurring theme, tho. Just because things are named similarly, that doesn’t mean they are the same. I notice a comparison being made between updates on Unix/Linux and updates on Windows. These are not always the same thing. Almost all updates on the unices are _preventative_. A bit like a vaccination shot. Someone saw in the code that there was a potential hole and put the fix in before people could exploit it. On the other hand, updates on Windows are almost always after-the-fact. It was too late. Someone exploited the hole, damaged a whole lot of people’s systems and Windows was forced to release a “cure” – which will only patch the hole, not return your system to its original state. Such is the problem of noone being able to see the code – closed source.

    While it is true that you are not and don’t want to be a coder, some of your friends clearly are, and with Linux, you are therefore placing your security in your friends hands. Aside from the obvious opportunity for bugs and the difficulties for your friends to find them and get the software maker to fix them, people who build closed-source products are always at some point forced to make an economic rationalisation of your security that is hidden from you.

  17. I have at home both Windows Vista amd64 and Ubuntu 7.04 amd64. I can say that I like Ubuntu better. But this is a matter of taste and a matter of needs. In general before Ubuntu 7.04 I wouldn’t recomment Linux to any newbie at all. Now starting from Vista I wouldn’t recommend Windows to any newbie either. The thing is Microsoft as always tries to make a fool proof newbie user friendly OS, but something went wrong down the line… My wife, who is an experienced user, hates Vista. Yesterday she couldn’t find the print button in Word 2007… hell I couldn’t either :o( I know for print the combination is CTRL+P (luckily it still works). She has troubles going to C driver as well. Some one at Microsoft wanted to make the new OS “I am reading your mind and I will do any thing you wish for”-wise, but the reading part somehow doesn’t work. I still cannot make my Vista understand that when I connect my PDA it should sync my contacts with Outlook.
    With Ubuntu the things are the otherway around. It can do anything, but it won’t try to read your mind, it will ask questions, which although in English to a newbie will be all Greek. I wouldn’t recommend Linux to a newbie, unless the newbie has a friend who is experienced with Linux and has the patience to explain the new OS or the newbie has a book dedicated to the specific distro. I have installed a few months ago Ubuntu 6.10 on the laptop of friends of mine and so far only one problem has occurred. Word would close with a system message “unexpected termination”, but that was due to the fact that the PC had only 128MB of RAM and even part of it was dedicated for the video. After installing more memory every thing runs smoothly.
    My advice to the Windows users who are willing to try Linux is either get a book or find a friend that is a Linux geek. Otherwise go and get some painkillers and be ready to endure the blisters on your bottom and the ichy eyes. Start with Ubuntu 7.04 (for those who like the pain go for SlackWare ;o) ). If you don’t have the patience or the need for Linux don’t even try, stay with XP. One day when XP is not supported by MS try Vista and Linux and then decide which one is better.
    A little “did you know” part
    1. I don’t know how you uninstall Ubuntu (or whatever OS in general), guys, but the only proper way is to delete the partinions. Then in Windows there is a nice small little tool called fdisk. Run it with options MBR and it will fix your master boot record for ya. In XP there is a separate command for this, just read the help.
    2. Linux might not start up (although it will boot), because of your video (most probably). Did you know that in Linux there are 7 consoles and you can switch between them with ALT+CTRL+N where N is one of the keys from 1 to 7? When starting up Ubuntu will go to console 7 to show the graphical interface, but dump some start up messages on console 1. Even if the graphical interface doesn’t start up you still can go to console 1 and fix the problem in text mode.

    Cheers to every one!

    If you cannot drive with manual shift then stick to automatic, it is as simple as that.

  18. re: Grub error 17.

    Format the drive? This is just a habit that comes from using something as ‘convenient’ as Windows, where most issues are ‘fixed’ with a re-install!

    2 words: fix mbr

    no need to format.

    Dare i mention that windows does the same if you install it as a second OS with Ubuntu on first? It doesnt just take the boot record with it though, it will try and wipe out the whole OS!

    re: piece of sheps comment about ‘it has to make it so Joe Schmo can install it and use it with ease’

    Joe schmo struggles with windows, because its joe schmo whos always phoning me up asking me for help with his XP installation. It only ‘seems’ easy because we’ve all had more experience with Windows.

    If people spent the time getting used to Ubuntu that they spent getting used to windows, they’d never go back to the dark side.

    All learning curves are frustrating, and linux will always be for the minority, but personally I’d rather help my mates (Joe Schmo etc..) fix their Ubuntu problems than help them fix their XP problems.

    One thing’s for sure, you’ll be back ….. ; )

  19. Marklar, thanks for the encouragement to persevere with Ubuntu. Yeah, I’m new to it too and have wasted far too much time trying to get it to work, but didn’t I also spend a long time getting used to my first Windows back in ’94? I am prepared for the learning curve but hope Canonical will invest more in hardware driver support in the future. People complain about Linux unfairly sometimes when Windows XP is the biggest offender of all, spoiling the mbr so neither Vista nor Ubuntu can be accessed. Ubuntu made a super job of the mbr with Vista preinstalled. Beware to lose stuff if you install XP after the other operating systems, and yes, I did install XP on a seperate primary partition to the others. And are there any drivers for my new hardware to run on XP? The Nvidia ones don’t work for starters, at least Linux will be supporting new hardware; with windows you’re stuck with Vista. XP is history unfortunately.

  20. I’m very glad I found your blog. I installed Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty onto a partion of my tablet Toshiba m405 in May, spent a hours of my free time every day for weeks learning how to get it to work correctly, then realized there are no good replacements for my OneNote program. If Ubuntu isn’t ready for most computers, it certainly isn’t ready for tablets. Finally I learned about Vmware server, was able to install a non-tablet version of XP sp2 onto it, and then installed OneNote. But it was really slow, and the last disaster was when I tried to access the windows partition and it caused the destruction of that partition of my hard drive in the process. I lost a good amount of important data I hadn’t yet backed up. Fast forward to now. It’s working, I like many of the programs I have access to that aren’t available in XP. But I don’t care enough. Every time I go to a new wireless location, I have to do all this work to make it connect. Nothing is automatic. Ubuntu DOES freeze, and programs freeze, and sometimes I can resume from suspend and sometimes it fails to resume, without explanation. The hard drive whirrs all the time and the computer went from about 3hrs of battery life to about an hour and a half. I tried cpufreqd and edited the config file to be as miserly of power as possible, but all I get is a really slow computer when not plugged in. Ubuntu doesn’t suck, but compared to the time I’ve spent vexing over XP, I have to say it’s been substantially greater. The learning curve doesn’t level off the way it does with Windows. Every time I need to do something new, I have to spend hours learning how to do it or how to fix a problem I created that I had no warning I would get into. I think Ubuntu supporters have been irresponsible and remiss in their boosterism of Ubutu. I know they have an agenda, and it’s not to help average users make better, more efficient use of their computers, which is the ultimate goal most people have. I think instead, its to defeat “Micro$oft” and all that it stands for to them. Well look, microsoft is a corporation in a late capitalist economy. The problem isn’t microsoft, its the whole system, and spinning your wheels trying to change the world by taking down one corp isn’t going to cut it. Meanwhile, I think a lot of people have wound up ensared in Ubutu-land for dubious ends. Now I’m going to figure out how reinstall XP and maybe use Wubi sometimes for fun and access to linux programs.

  21. Hi all

    I have worked several months with Ubuntu. Even started a company offering services related with Ubuntu and Linux in general.

    Well….using Linux and all the free software is pointless and is just for people who want to waste countless hours struggling with weird installation procedures and unexplicable errors.

    Thanks for the advice on using the Ultimate Boot Cd because my old laptop is almost unusable after an unlucky uninstallation of Kubintu 6.10.

    Thanks for the attention.

  22. Yep your right you should have tried it for longer ;o) And I’ve just come back to windows XP with a dual boot, and its not easier on the eye, the fonts on internet explorer and firefox under XP by default are uglier than ubuntu gutsy. Windows XP is good, and I have to have it installed for making music as in this area it still is better, but everywhere else, I prefer ubuntu, so yes it is a matter of taste I have used both system for a long time, you have not used linux long enough to have so many opinions IMHP.

  23. I have been installing and playing with Linux on my desktop and laptop and still cannot get the wi-fi to work. All the instructions to fix it seems like greek to me! Because it is not wrotten in laymans’s language. You have to be a linux or unix programmer to understand the instructions. I had to print 100 pages of instructions out of the help file to find out that to do one of the instructions you needed to open the Terminal which is listed under one of the menus.
    Not very user-friendly at all!

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