Death penalty and the IRA

The UK maintains good diplomatic relations with many countries that have the Death Penalty (USA, Egypt, Japan, Jordan, Pakistan and many many more) and in surveys carried out in this country, the majority of people support it’s reintroduction. So why the big fuss about the IRA ? They seem to have said “Those guys killed, they should not, we will exact punishment” and the British Govt is kicking up a stink ? WHY ? Did G W Bush send people to their legally sanctioned deaths in Texas ? (The sentences would not be allowed here, nor would the evidence have probably led to the disproportionate amount of blacks convicted of offences involving the DP) Did the short-ass also get the full backing of the sycophantic Blair, even though Bush has an appalling human rights record ? Are their people dying daily in Iraq (and pretty damn soon Iran) because of Bush and Blair ? Yet they criticise the IRA for saying they will do something ? This is not me supporting the IRA, but trying to point out that all I see in this is one huge amount of hypocrisy. This has got nothing to do with laws as such, more in who has set such laws and who interprets them.

9 thoughts on “Death penalty and the IRA

  1. I can only speak for myself, but I was totally gobsmacked when I heard this announcement.

    I appreciate what you’re saying, but I think the situation needs to be put in context. This isn’t the US, or Iraq, or Pakistan we’re talking about, this is the UK (and I can wholeheartedly say I do NOT agree with the death penalty at all). Within the context of the UK it’s quite an abhorrent thing to even think of, let alone offer to do.

    It smacks of people whose mentalities are decades behind the current climate. Generally I’d agree that there’s a lot of hypocrisy in the world, but I don’t think this is an illustration of that.

  2. There’s also a point that the US and Japanese governments are democratically elected (and even the others can be said to represent their countries on some level), whereas the IRA are a bunch of self-picked thugs who don’t speak for anyone…

  3. @Zenith – I wasn’t amazed at all. I just thought they were saying what in years past they would have just done myabe.

    @John – There are many undemocratic countries on the list to which I linked. Despotic, murderous regimes yet our country, in our name, maintains relations and investments with them. While I can see your point on one level, I fail to see the finer points. Blair et al are making a distinction based on their values because it suits them – NOT because of the principle.

  4. I think the intention here has been lost. The IRA made the offer to the family in the belief (IMO) that it would be refused. Now they are able to say that they are doing all they can to bring the killers to “justice”. As they don’t recognise the legitimacy of the PSNI they can’t just go and speak to the police so this is their way of dealing with the situation. Naiive and backward maybe but probably well intentioned.

  5. Just wanted to point out that the statement says nothing about killing the Murderers, only Shooting them. This *could* be taken in a total different context, ie they’ll kneecap the blokes that did it…. just another way to look at the thing..

    Apart fromo that, I’d be inclined to agree with Dino.. there’s no police force to them, so what can they do…. (also, don’t forget they’re not exactly going to be heading for mensa anytime soon)

  6. To be completely pedantic Mark, the IRA didn’t threaten to kill the killers – they threatened to shoot them. There is a big difference, one which Hugh Orde chose to ignore.

    The IRA have a long history of punishment shootings – shooting people in the knees, ankles, elbows, etc. Shooting to maim rather then to kill.

    Personally, I despise the IRA and George Bush almost equally – neither have any regard for the sanctity of human life (except in GWB’s case where it is unborn!).

    I can’t understand Blair’s sucking up to Bush at all. I thought Blair had a shred of intelligence.

    Tom

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